964hp Prelude. 16.5K$

"MountainCommand" (MountainCommand) 01/30/2014 at 00:09 • Filed to: None

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If this is accurate... And he states 788 torques. And a 'conservative' 37psi. balls, thats crazy. !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!!

offroadkarter > MountainCommand 01/30/2014 at 00:12

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it was actually posted on NPOCP last week or so lol

MountainCommand > offroadkarter 01/30/2014 at 00:14

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Lol. i guess thats what i get for not reading the fp....

i suppose i should edit this to something else....

Big Bubba Ray > MountainCommand 01/30/2014 at 00:30

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*conservative 37 psi*

Zoom > MountainCommand 01/30/2014 at 00:46

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Do you own an steel foundry?

good. then 37 is weak.

offroadkarter > MountainCommand 01/30/2014 at 00:52

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oh I would have left it, look how many times I repost my NPOCP featured E23

CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) > MountainCommand 01/30/2014 at 00:59

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There is probably no Cornering possible.

Dsscats > MountainCommand 01/30/2014 at 01:04

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Ill go ahead and say it, though I know I'll get alot of flack for it. FWD=useless with 900hp

PS9 > Dsscats 01/30/2014 at 01:07

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It's a drag car.

Dsscats > PS9 01/30/2014 at 01:10

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So buy a RWD platform. When your momentum is forward, the back goes down. That gives you more weight over the back (i.e. grip), where as in a fwd car, the front lifts and you lose grip. My point is, no matter how much work you put into a FWD car, it will never be as fast as a RWD one on a drag strip.

PS9 > Dsscats 01/30/2014 at 01:24

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So buy a RWD platform.

People buy what they like and mod what they buy, and they have a right to do that.

When your momentum is forward, the back goes down. That gives you more weight over the back (i.e. grip), where as in a fwd car, the front lifts and you lose grip.

So compensate for it. Every car exists as an attempt to engineer our way around specific problems.

My point is, no matter how much work you put into a FWD car, it will never be as fast as a RWD one on a drag strip.

Red Herring. If the platform is capable of meeting your personal speed goals, then the absolute limit is irrelevant. People have built 7 second FWD platform cars before, which already beyond the point most 'weekend warriors' can cross due to the massive time/energy/cost involved in getting there, no matter the platform.

puddler > MountainCommand 01/30/2014 at 02:14

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GhostZ > Dsscats 01/30/2014 at 02:39

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FWD or RWD depends entirely on whether or not the grip loss due to a load shift ("back going down" refers to weight shift, which is the position of the body, not LOAD shift, which is the distribution of grip, which is more important and almost no amount of suspension work can compensate for) is outweighed by the weight and cost advantages, and if it does outweigh, does it outweigh it by a larger margin than the cost of converting to RWD based on what further FWD upgrades are? If yes, then it's worth converting from FWD to RWD. If not, then it's not.

Or, in other words, it's a lot cheaper to add boost onto a FWD junker that can take it, than to convert a car to RWD and expect better times. It's not so much about "start with the best" but "what's the next best thing to do given my resources?"

ASheep > Dsscats 01/30/2014 at 02:55

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Modify gearbox to run backwards.

Race in reverse.

Best wrong wheel drive car ever.

samssun > Dsscats 01/30/2014 at 03:08

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Typo. Should read: FWD=useless with hp.

D > Dsscats 01/30/2014 at 04:16

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Remember that the motor is over the front wheels..

Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > PS9 01/30/2014 at 05:34

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Doing it wrong.

JACU - I've got bonifides. > Dsscats 01/30/2014 at 07:23

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Conventional thinking is not always correct.

Dsscats > JACU - I've got bonifides. 01/30/2014 at 09:11

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Prove me wrong. Seriously. This is what I've been taught, so if it's wrong, I'd like to know

Dsscats > D 01/30/2014 at 09:12

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And the momentum is still going towards the back

Dsscats > ASheep 01/30/2014 at 09:12

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Now this is a good idea. It's like drag racing a 911!

Dsscats > GhostZ 01/30/2014 at 09:14

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There are a lot better platforms to start with still for cheap. I wasn't saying convert the prelude, though that would be awesome. What about a 300zx?

JACU - I've got bonifides. > Dsscats 01/30/2014 at 09:53

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http://jalopnik.com/the-physics-be…

MountainCommand > offroadkarter 01/30/2014 at 20:33

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lol, but you actually bought it (didnt you?) So you have a right to post about it as much as you want. Like i used to post whore my prelude. Ive since stopped, but i completely understand your need to repost.

MountainCommand > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 01/30/2014 at 20:38

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I would be shocked if it could make the tri oval at daytona.

MountainCommand > Dsscats 01/30/2014 at 20:44

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Lol, look what you did now....

Depends on what useless is. .I mean, he might just like to light his wheels up all the time. In that case, then this is the perfect, useful machine.

Prelude owners know rwd is better. But prelude owners love the prelude, so they dont want another car.

offroadkarter > MountainCommand 01/31/2014 at 04:31

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Yeah I actually bought it. I mean jalopnik said it was a "NP" so what the hell right?

MountainCommand > offroadkarter 01/31/2014 at 20:29

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If/whenever we meet up you gotta give me a ride in the bmw. My dad has a 740i so id love to see how much more awesome the older 7 is.

Jalopnik has said NP to a lot of questionable cars as well... But yours, i would have bought especially if in your position.

offroadkarter > MountainCommand 01/31/2014 at 22:23

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absolutely dude, next time we have a meetup we'll have to go out for a drive.... how about NJ Motorsports park? lol

MountainCommand > offroadkarter 01/31/2014 at 22:42

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How far central are you in jersey btw. You throw NJMP around like its around the block haha. Cause literally, im at opposite ends.

Not saying its out of the question, i just have to carefully plan it. But compared to Etown, it seems expensive, unless we can drive at NJMP without having to go through their driving school to get the track license.

annnnnnddd, i gotta flush out all my fluids before im confident in putting my lude on the track.

offroadkarter > MountainCommand 02/01/2014 at 02:12

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I am actually 20 minutes away form E town, I'd be down for a e town test n tune meet! Its only like 40 bucks with a race number and all, 30 if you have one iirc

MountainCommand > offroadkarter 02/01/2014 at 14:09

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Is that drag or road course? Cause their website prices are a bit higher than that...

offroadkarter > MountainCommand 02/01/2014 at 14:14

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The drag strip. They also do autoX and I think, think they have a small road course or something thats used for drift events.

I've gone to test and tune plenty of times there. Show me where they list prices on their site cause I can't find anything on T&T. I'm going by what I paid actually being there, the race number was 5 dollars, I know in total it was not over 40 dollars to get in and do 3 passes down the 1/4 mile.

and I'm not saying that in a snarky tone I'm just being honest lol

MountainCommand > offroadkarter 02/01/2014 at 14:20

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I would do maybe 1 or 2 drag runs, just to see what my prelude still has after all these years. Besides that, its not a drag car, so running 15's could get a bit boring haha. plus extra hard launches could do some damage.

http://www.etownraceway.com/road_course.as…

I did not sense any snarkyness haha. But the site says they have drift,road course, drag, karting, and i dont see any autox.

offroadkarter > MountainCommand 02/01/2014 at 14:30

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I have no clue how the road course stuff works since I've never done it, but I wouldn't be adverse to doing it.

They do autocross in the back of the parking lot thats connected to the main lot where all the pit parking is, trust me I've seen it. Last time I was there they had "professional driving" training going on for people transporting VIP's. The time before that it was a regular autoX with miata's galore.

MountainCommand > offroadkarter 02/01/2014 at 14:51

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well whenever they get their new schedule out, we will have to try and set up something i think. And then just do whatever we can do that particular day without having to need any prerequisites.

Ive never been to etown so i dont know much about it though.

offroadkarter > MountainCommand 02/01/2014 at 17:37

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if we met up on a street night we'd all get 1 (and only one period) free pass down the 1/4 track, always that option.

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > Dsscats 02/04/2014 at 13:18

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This is one of those "because I can" situations, the last thing on their mind is for this to make sense, the first thing on their mind is how can we make this thing hook up, even though it has FWD?

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > ASheep 02/04/2014 at 13:19

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Most dangerous drag car too, because rear steer, lol.